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Originally posted by alex79 View PostOn par with open source drivers and in some cases worse, thank you captain.
If you don't even acknowledge that they have a proprietary driver you can't say it's bad.
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Originally posted by sa666666 View Post
I think that says it all right there. AMD is willing (and has) done great things for open source, and Nvidia (by your own admission) has not. In fact, they are actively hostile towards open source developers. AFAIC, that puts Nvidia out of consideration for Linux. If you're comfortable with proprietary drivers for a huge chunk of your OS, why are you even using Linux? But I guess it's all about "muh games". Typical gamer-only attitude.
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Originally posted by sa666666 View Post
I think that says it all right there. AMD is willing (and has) done great things for open source, and Nvidia (by your own admission) has not. In fact, they are actively hostile towards open source developers. AFAIC, that puts Nvidia out of consideration for Linux. If you're comfortable with proprietary drivers for a huge chunk of your OS, why are you even using Linux? But I guess it's all about "muh games". Typical gamer-only attitude.
People with the "typical gamer-only attitude" outta be thrilled about AMD and all they're doing for us directly and indirectly.
Michael, AMD released the 19.20 AMDGPU-Pro driver yesterday.
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Originally posted by Michael View Post
See the example from that NVIDIA forum thread link, e.g. (though possible different location of your GPU on the PCI bus):- setpci -s 01:00.0 0x488.l=0x2000000:0x2000000
- rmmod nvidia-drm nvidia-modeset nvidia
- echo 1 > /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:01:00.0/remove
- echo 1 > /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:01.0/rescan
- modprobe nvidia-drm
- xinit -- -retro
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AMD OSS support:
I have to admit that _latest_ Mesa git stuff (after new AMD runtime linker) + a late patch from Nicolai and Marek let all 3 luxmark versions run under Mesa OpenCL (1.1), now. Only 'Hotel Lobby' is slow and show some corruption with v3.0 and v3.1 running on RX580.
Jan Vesely is working on relocation and image support.
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Originally posted by sa666666 View Post
I think that says it all right there. AMD is willing (and has) done great things for open source, and Nvidia (by your own admission) has not. In fact, they are actively hostile towards open source developers. AFAIC, that puts Nvidia out of consideration for Linux. If you're comfortable with proprietary drivers for a huge chunk of your OS, why are you even using Linux? But I guess it's all about "muh games". Typical gamer-only attitude.
You can piously mouth about how much AMD is doing for open source and free software, but at the end of the day people have to get work done and AMD GPUs aren't workable for a great many people. In fact, most Linux systems are headless servers or embedded devices and in neither case is the argument about who's doing more in the GPU space even relevant, while many developers don't even bother with discrete GPUs and just use the system's built in Intel GPU, assuming an Intel laptop or desktop.
The fact of the matter is that AMD didn't even bother doing much testing with any OS other than Windows when Ryzen was released (see the brou-ha-ha over the multithreading crash bugs in the Ryzen initial release revealed via Linux and FreeBSD users and AMD's prolonged silence on it), and those CPUs are far more relevant to the computing industry than AMD GPUs.
AMD is not the monolith people seem to think, and neither is Intel. Like AMD, Nvidia is neither entirely bad, nor entirely good for open source. They ARE supporting Linux and releasing drivers for the operating system, testing for compatiblity, and suggesting interop concepts. That's more than the vast majority of the computer hardware industry is doing.
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Originally posted by alex79 View PostNavi is a joke, so is all that AMD opensource work. AMD to save money stopped developing Linux drivers and dumped them on the community fooling them into thinking they are such a good guys. The fact is they don't give a crap about Linux users and that will backfire at them sooner or later. While Nvidia may not be opensource friendly, they at least provide solid drivers and performance.
I had high hopes with Navi, like most people...fool me once AMD, shame on you, fool me twice...
** except for the developers working on closed source OpenGL, who kept working on closed source OpenGL for AMDGPU-PRO and added closed/open Vulkan as well
Originally posted by alex79 View PostWhile Nvidia may not be opensource friendly, they at least provide solid drivers and performance.
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Originally posted by stormcrow View PostThe fact of the matter is that AMD didn't even bother doing much testing with any OS other than Windows when Ryzen was released (see the brou-ha-ha over the multithreading crash bugs in the Ryzen initial release revealed via Linux and FreeBSD users and AMD's prolonged silence on it), and those CPUs are far more relevant to the computing industry than AMD GPUs.
I believe that gap has been closed now (AFAIK the second gen Ryzen CPUs had a smooth launch from Linux POV), but we will continue to monitor.Last edited by bridgman; 13 June 2019, 05:30 PM.Test signature
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