My response is to what was written.

No, it wasn't. The statement was that is difficult to apologize., which the Sheriff did. You expanded on the original post with your own conjecture, for which you have no evidence.

So Pb, does the $25k this illegal alien got make her a "millionaire" like the $100k Santos got made her?

Sir I am a patriot and a supporter of individual rights, including the person in this article that was pulled over by the police. Just like many of those that protested in the capital True patriots Support the rights of all even those we do not align ourselves with.

She was from Maryland.

Ready comprehension class: The Fifth Amendment of the Constitution protects a person from being compelled to incriminate oneself by the government. In performance as an officer of the government you can’t ask, demand, or force one to declare ones citizenship. We are not Nazi Germany... If you discover weapons, drugs, or driving under the influence that would be justification to detain. Not ones race, nationality or residency. Like Grimes implied, he was trained well in getting around the law.

Awteam2021 oh you are so ignorant and obviously do not live in the real world. The courts have ruled asking is not compelling. Police all the time ask people what they have done illegal. I did an internet search and I cannot find and answer to my question. If your so smart why don’t you find me a source explaining why it’s illegal to question ones immigration status.

ma23464, look immediately below at my explanation, it gives you the reason why. The FCSO has now lost two expensive lawsuits for FCSO Deputies inquiring into a persons Immigration Status.

Twice within a few weeks. And not to mention there’s been other suicide incidents at same facility. Clearly there’s a problem.

What's your plan to prevent ALL suicides at the detention center, PB?

Did I mention or state I’ve manifested a plan, bosc?

No, PB, that's why I'm asking. You raise the issue of suicides in the detention center and repeatedly make derisive comments about the sheriff - so I want to know how YOU would prevent ALL suicides at the detention center. Come on, if you are such a law enforcement expert, what's your plan?

My plan would begin with encouraging empathy. What is yours Bosco?

Detainer totals from April 11, 2008 to May 31, 2020.

Frederick Police Department 1027 Frederick County Sheriff’s Office 389 Maryland State Police 207 Other* 111 Total 1734

Brunswick Police Department, DNR, Thurmont Police Department and the Frederick County Court Systems

Yah, the point is that this would not have happened if the Sheriff had not signed up for the ICE program.

That may be your opinion Vodalone, but it does does not involve the 287g program unless the offense is "arrestable", and the arrested is brought to the detention center for processing. Traffic moving violations are not arrestable unless it is a DUI, or other serious violations. Broken tail lights or speeding do not rise to that level.

Glad you said it Vod. You are correct.

We all know what the 287 program is. That, and for the last 12 months Gabs has written at least 274 times what the program is and is not, and each time she has done so as if it’s the first time doing so. And each time she has failed to understand the point in others mentioning 287.

The FCSO has never has ANY issues involving 287 UNTIL Trumpkins came onboard with 287. Period. It doesn’t matter if 287 has been dead in the water for the last 5 years or last century. There was never any issues with Latinos until 287 came into the picture. FCPD, MSP, brunswick PD, none of them have issues deriving from Latinos, and they aren’t a part of 287. But FCSO has had issues.

The news story is who brings up 287. It mentions 287. The FNP commenters didn’t bring it up. The news story did. There is a reason why 287 is part of the story.

We the people, we don’t need a lecture or class on 287. It’s the deputies, and I suspect at the urging of Sherf Trumpkins who need the lecture and class. You don’t lose lawsuits for playing by the rules. You don’t lose high court appeals for doing your job.

When Trumpkins very first ran for sheriff, his exact promise, and I quote word from word “I’m going to go after the aliens”. And that’s why 287 appealed to him. And in attempt to live out that promise, that’s how we all became aicquainted with Roxie Santos and this other lady.

287. Incited Trumpkins to compel the deputies to play ICE. His campaign promise has not been forgotten.

true story, Three. Others can bark all they want. Very true. The adopting 287, whether it’s a jail thing or a patrol thing, doesn’t matter, is what has gotten Trumpkins in hot water.

”Additionally, local meetings regarding the 287(g) program — which allows a police agency to work with ICE to inquire about someone's immigration status — will be conducted publicly.”

It says police agency. Doesn’t mention deten ctr.

Bingo. There you have it. Deputies saw or discovered a Latina. And because of 287, they did what they did that caused them to be sued. All because of 287. 287. Two. Eight. Seven.

Yeah Plumbum, let's not let easily verifiable facts get in the way of your personal vitriolic vendetta against the Sheriff. I'm just wondering what he busted you for that you would go on such an irrational tirade. As previously stated, the 287g program that you erroneously refer to has not existed in Frederick County for over a decade. The 287 g program as it exists is used only in the detention center for those that have been arrested for "arrestable" offenses, and again, that is a matter of public record. It applies to ALL arrested. Are the State Police, Frederick City Police, and other independent law enforcement all in on the plot, since they all arrest offenders (as phy showed above) that are held st the detention center? Why do I post as if this is the first time? Because you continue to post this nonsense, repeatedly. As I told you before, you lie, I reply.

“ Traffic moving violations are not arrestable unless it is a DUI, or other serious violations.” So why would a deputy take it upon himself to contact ICE over a broken tail light unless he thought he had the authority to do so? Rightfully or wrongly, I bet he thought he had the authority under the 287g program.

Aw and thats exactly what happened and what was happening. it was incited into the deputies that they were / are ICE Agents. And it was incited into them by Trumpkins.

@gabriel. I wouldn't say that's my opinion, like I said it's a simple matter of putting 2 and 2 together given the circumstances of this situation. It's irrelevant if the FCSO officers pulling the woman over and making her wait was caused by bad training, lack of training, or the officers having an inflated sense of authority (playing ICE). What is relevant is the FCSO participation in the 287g program along with Jenkins close ties to Trump creating an environment where the officers felt entitled enough to target a hispanic woman and be a-holes to make themselves feel better or prove some point. It was a passive aggressive move at the least.

[thumbup]Voda, No reasonable person would disagree with you.