<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <style type="text/css" style="display:none;"> P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;} </style> </head> <body dir="ltr"> <div style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);">Having heard no comments on the proposals with respect to Egyptian and Homshetsma over the last seven days, I will close both as rejected, as described in my original message.</div> <div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> </div> <div id="signature"> Sent from <a href="http://aka.ms/weboutlook">Outlook</a> </div> <div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> </div> <hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex="-1"> <div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr">From: Langcom <langcom-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of langcom-request@lists.wikimedia.org <langcom-request@lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 7:00 AM To: langcom@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Langcom Digest, Vol 52, Issue 14 <div> </div> </div> <div class="BodyFragment"> <div class="PlainText">Send Langcom mailing list submissions to langcom@lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a href="https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata=dwWNIYGLiUJWok%2Bpaeqvvu4cpMfhQ3mzTDGE8JzRXNY%3D&reserved=0"> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata=dwWNIYGLiUJWok%2Bpaeqvvu4cpMfhQ3mzTDGE8JzRXNY%3D&reserved=0</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to langcom-request@lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at langcom-owner@lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Langcom digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Montenegrin project (Steven White) 2. Four more Wikipedia requests dating to the summer of 2010 (Steven White) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 15:35:23 +0000 From: Steven White <Koala19890@hotmail.com> To: "langcom@lists.wikimedia.org" <langcom@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Langcom] Montenegrin project Message-ID: <CY4PR12MB18000D6A5BA7FB790B277F779EEB0@CY4PR12MB1800.namprd12.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Amir: Someone has written a response to your email to LangCom at the bottom of the discussion page on Meta. Gerard: You don't get asked all that often here to spend a lot of time on an involved, complicated decision. If I thought I could easily digest it and feed it to you I would. But I don't. I'm not asking you for a lot of time; rather, the community you serve needs you to spend the appropriate amount of time to see the latest evidence and decide what you think. Sent from Outlook<<a href="https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2Fweboutlook&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata=9ELE4%2B1nRnBq%2FMwz5TFWggTiirPT3mP3tZu3NoQ6z0w%3D&reserved=0">https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2Fweboutlook&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata=9ELE4%2B1nRnBq%2FMwz5TFWggTiirPT3mP3tZu3NoQ6z0w%3D&reserved=0</a>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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SIL marks as an ancient language; it's a predecessor of Coptic. Writing is hieroglyphics. There is no test project underway at Incubator, and the original proposer has not been active in over five years. Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Nigerian Pidgin (<a href="https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRequests_for_new_languages%2FWikipedia_Nigerian_Pidgin&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata=s0udxN8jheX7fbc37aZbExOwaoZ3pks2Alaeqr5AMRU%3D&reserved=0">https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRequests_for_new_languages%2FWikipedia_Nigerian_Pidgin&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata=s0udxN8jheX7fbc37aZbExOwaoZ3pks2Alaeqr5AMRU%3D&reserved=0</a>): Marking as eligible. Ethnologue gives a figure (dating to 2005) of 30 million speakers; though not all are native, it's a widely used pidgin. Ethnologue says there isn't really a written standard, but as of 2016 there is a BBC service in the pidgin, so we can probably steer people in that direction to some extent. Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Pipil (<a href="https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRequests_for_new_languages%2FWikipedia_Pipil&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata=UPsCIDgHLDNmWa5hvaHJ5q4j7vKJp%2BJkFIZK24s249k%3D&reserved=0">https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRequests_for_new_languages%2FWikipedia_Pipil&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata=UPsCIDgHLDNmWa5hvaHJ5q4j7vKJp%2BJkFIZK24s249k%3D&reserved=0</a>): Marking as eligible. Central American language classified by Glottolog as an Eastern Nahuatl language. Pipil is near extinction, and test project hasn't been all that active recently. But there's a decent amount of content there, and if it's valid content, then this is probably a project that should be encouraged. No objections were noted on the RFL page. Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Homshetsma (<a href="https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRequests_for_new_languages%2FWikipedia_Homshetsma&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata=3M5X3ioExyMGt7RFFfeMsxI3Fg%2F0JYynTVv3QGqnp6k%3D&reserved=0">https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRequests_for_new_languages%2FWikipedia_Homshetsma&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata=3M5X3ioExyMGt7RFFfeMsxI3Fg%2F0JYynTVv3QGqnp6k%3D&reserved=0</a>): Propose to reject. See <a href="https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fglottolog.org%2Fresource%2Flanguoid%2Fid%2Fhoms1234&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata=hfLYK5yCqF4H6jLbT3jNo7hVKv%2FT7AdcVI0o5JKeuP0%3D&reserved=0:"> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fglottolog.org%2Fresource%2Flanguoid%2Fid%2Fhoms1234&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata=hfLYK5yCqF4H6jLbT3jNo7hVKv%2FT7AdcVI0o5JKeuP0%3D&reserved=0:</a> Western Armenian dialect not fully intelligible with Armenian. It has no ISO code, and a small number of L1 speakers. The proposal dates to the (northern hemisphere) summer of 2010, and there has been no material discussion there since then. If it ever gets a code, we could revisit; if Western Armenian gets a code, it could possibly be included there. 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